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Ken Ballen is the founder and President of a nonprofit organization, which investigates the causes of extremism. He’s interviewed more than a hundred Islamic radicals, asking them probing questions about their inner lives, deepest faith, and what it was that ultimately drove them to jihad. We discuss his findings contained in the book, Terrorists in Love, which opens a fresh window into the realm of violent extremism.

My guests will be Warren Phillips talking about his time at The Wall Street Journal, Jeff Pearlman giving the definitive biography of Walter Payton and Ken Ballen giving a glimpse into the real lives of Islamic radicals.